Tamara I hope the Traditional Chinese Medicine Herbalist says the same thing! That would be great news. Terry you are so right about conventional medicine. OK, that is a generalization but it does seem that the answer they have is always SURGERY. I was an X-ray Tech in the OR but I personally would do whatever I could to avoid surgery. Sometimes it is necessary but I see so many people who have say - minor gallbladder problems - enough to bother them, but diet changes could probably have done the same thing without an invasive procedure. Sorry, I'll get off my soapbox now. I'm on my way to my pity party. Have decided to jump into the party with both feet and hopefully it will be over quicker!