Vitamin C IS working (Updated 9/15/2010)

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  1. songbird

    songbird New Member

    skye: do you have the Vitamin Shoppe order number for what you use?
     
  2. Perses

    Perses Guest

    Yes this is a very easy question to answer.

    When drinking alcohol, I don't keep drinking until I pass out becuase doing so will destroy my liver, kill brain cells, and even result in cardiac arrest. Try polishing off a vodka bottle in half an hour and then come talk to us...if you are alive.

    And yes, when eating very spicy foods (and I meand VERY spicy Jamaican or Trinidadian foods) I take caution because eating too much of it can harm the stomach.

    And yes, when using table salt, I try to use very little. Try drowning your food in salt for days or weeks at a time and tell me how you feel afterwards....let's see what it does to your blood pressure....

    Oh....and let's see...high cholesterol foods (i.e. McDonald's)....try eating that the way the guy in that movie "Super Size Me" did for just a month then come crawling to us in your ill state of health and talk to us....

    Do you want me to continue?

    Come on man....
     
  3. studio34

    studio34 Guest

    JOH -- I think Perses just covered it well.

    Let me add, why are you comparing a straight high dose of vitamin C with real food? Vitamin C in real food comes in smaller doses with other nutrients and macromolecules that work in synergy. We did not evolve on a diet that required a bucket of daily vitamin C taken on its own.

    It's interesting here that nobody will bat an eyelid at this but the minute anything comes up about a more conventional medicine, suddenly it's the work of the evil establishment. Bizarre.
     
  4. Trinity

    Trinity Bilateral Menieres 20 years, 24-7 symptoms,

    I would very much like to know what symptoms of Meniere's massive doses of vitamin C help. Does it just cure the vertigo? How about all the other dreadful 24/7 symptoms like pressure, tinnitus, sound sensitivity, fluctuating distorted hearing loss and feeling pretty lousy everyday. I take about 3000 a day plus 4000 vitamin D-3. I know from past experience that too much will cause inflammation in my lower bladder. Thanks Carole
     
  5. Skye76

    Skye76 New Member

    Songbird-This is what I'm taking:

    Vitamin Shoppe
    C-1000 Powder (1000 MG)
    VS-1018
    17 Ounces Powder
    $19.79
    :)
     
  6. CGR

    CGR Guest

    JOH, i'm taking 6000 of C at 2000 3x per day. Should i be spreading it out more (e.g. 1000 x 6)? Should i increase the daily amount?
     
  7. Alex

    Alex New Member

    Hi CGR,

    Without wanting to pre-empt part of John's response, you're the only one who can tell if you should increase the amount. :)

    Keep a diary of your symptoms (i.e. between 1 - 10) and see what effect altering the Vit.C levels has. It's hardly perfect causality but if you find a rough correlation then that's good enough. :)

    Alex
     
  8. John of Ohio

    John of Ohio New Member

    Scott,

    I don't think yours is an accurate assessment of the frequent questionings of conventional medicine on this board. Personally, I certainly don’t think that conventionally trained physicians, or “medicine” in general, is “the work of the evil establishment.” I work closely with my general practitioner, my ENT, and with an MD specialist regarding another somewhat severe genetic condition I endure (unrelated to Meniere’s). These people are thorough and helpful professionals, using all of the practices, experiences, and techniques their training and professionalism can offer.

    But that’s the real issue on this board. Is conventional medicine able to offer welcome levels of symptomatic relief? Clearly, in the case of Meniere’s and MAV, traditional or convention simply does not provide adequate relief for many or most who suffer from these diseases.

    Virtually everyone who posts or visits here has first been treated by conventional doctors. If what the medical community offered provided adequate and enduring relief, this board simply would not exist.

    These are the real questions and issues: Does conventional medicine offer substantial relief from Meniere’s? And, if it does not, are there other, safe, alternative approaches that bring greater levels of relief?

    The majority of the posts on this board deal exactly with these two topics. Many ask and post about conventional procedures, such as low salt and diuretic, gent, and benzodiazepine (Valium, et al.) therapies, the conventional things. It’s very important and helpful that these be discussed, even intelligently questioned here — as they are.

    But after it is so often discovered that none of what conventional medicine offers works very well, there are the many postings on the various alternative, even non-medical, ways to deal with Meniere’s.

    Is there sometimes a conveyed sense of bitterness or rejection of conventional medicine here? Of course there is. But I think that derives from the initial hope that real answers and real relief would result from the men with stethoscopes and med-school diplomas on the wall.

    But it is inaccurate to state that many of us here believe that doctors are “the work of the evil establishment.”

    Simply, most of us here wish to take a more synoptic view of our disease, not limited by the narrow therapeutic offerings or understandings of conventional medicine, with a unique freedom of broader thought and expression, as it were.

    Conventional medicine will continue to offer its few and often marginally successful Meniere’s treatments, regardless of anyone’s misrepresentations. And those of us here will continue to offer what we’ve found to be useful. Perhaps the two will come together someday.

    In fact, such is the case with antiherpetic therapy, the use of herpes-fighting drugs to suppress viral infections in the inner ear. Even today, in the face of now overwhelming clinical and studies data, most American physicians simply won’t prescribe antiherpetics for Meniere’s. They are convinced that Meniere’s cannot have a herpes viral cause.

    But a few ENT clinicians have endorsed this approach, and much of the earliest information on this topic, from Japan and Italy, was presented here. I’m not claiming that the participants in this board were directly responsible for the expanding legitimacy and use of antiherpetic Meniere’s therapy. But clearly, dozens of readers here have learned of this topic and have been able to present clinical data and professional references to their own physicians on the topic, resulting in antiherpetic prescriptions.

    In the case of antiherpetic Meniere’s therapy, things—with the medical community—are moving in the right direction. Nothing “evil” there.

    –John of Ohio
     
  9. CGR

    CGR Guest

    I agree with John.

    If only they could provide something. My ENT said that if it have SCD, then there's NOTHING to be done but just live with it and take Ativan for the rest of my life.

    Sorry, i'm not ready to give up that easily.
     

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