Valium & similiar drug users ... check this out!

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  1. lillyrose

    lillyrose Life is short live it not diet.

    All I can say is that my ENT and family doctor both gave me Valium...not at first but when the symptoms got worse and nothing helped and I kept on going to ER all the time so, for me Valium has been a life saver and I take it responsibly.

    As for not driving...I chose not to drive anymore because of the vertigo and that is just as dangerous to me as taking the meds as far as I am concerned....never knowing when an attack would happen horrified me and as I said my personal choice.

    Also half this country takes meds that affect our reflexes for one reason or another and we still have to carry on.

    I do what I have to and what is available to me and thankful every day for it.

    Now maybe someone should go after all the folks on cancer meds and Parkinson meds and give them a good old lecture on the harm and side effects or their meds ?
  2. SamC

    SamC Guest

    I agree George that we will never agree. 25K for playing jazz ... not bad. Do you use tube amps? If so let's discuss triode connecting your final tubes. I build all my audio amps with triode preamps and then wire the final tubes (pentodes) as triodes. Less distortion, especially at high volumes, and the tubes don't run so hot and last longer. If interested we can discuss it on the front porch or email. I have converted several hundred guitar amps and PA systems for jazz, rock, and blues bands. Fairly easy to do. I play only Flamenco anymore and all acoustic and if amplification is needed I use one of my Heil mics and my homebrew triode amp with one old but good Jensen 12" speaker.

    To return to the subject, I think we can all agree that using benzos should be monitored by a doctor. We can agree benzos are a narcotic. We can agree that they effect the nervous system even in small amounts. We will never agree that they are a "Meniere's" control. We will never agree whether to drive or not to drive.

    I do challange all of you users to be tested by the police or other pros for stopping distance and other reactions that may be slowed from benzo impairment. Also have a blood test and see what your level is and if it falls into a legal catagory. Now I close this futile topic with the final verse to one of my country/blues songs called "Then you'll have to call your Mama"....... play it George...

    Let this be a lesson for all you cowboy boozers
    Or any other kind of self made losers
    When you go to your friendly bank to withdraw
    No whiskey and guns or you'll surely meet the law

    Then you'll have to call your ma…ma….
  3. nassman

    nassman Guest

    That little sentence of yours says it all. People these days take a drug for everything: sleeping, stress, anxiety, etc.

    Is there anything left for nature anymore?
  4. ToniG

    ToniG Guest

    I agree, and if they don't get their drug from one doctor they go to the next. That's why we are having a crisis with medication complications because patients aren't honest with their doctors what they really are on.
  5. nassman

    nassman Guest

    The problem is really getting bad, especially in the USA and Canada, because the more people become overworked, stressed, exhausted, etc., the more the drug industry produces drugs to combat "newly defined" conditions that seem to "match" the symptoms people face simply because they are over-extending themselves. In my opinion, society is sick. 50 years ago, half of these drugs never existed. And, your point is correct. People can go from one doctor to another in search of their desired drug, which most times, they see on tv commercials and feel they can use it to combat their problems! Doctors, on teh other hand are so over-burdened with an exhausted health care system that they dont have the time to share patient files and see that the patient has been rejected certain drugs in the past. Thus, in haste, they give the patient the drug they want and shoo them off.

    I recently read an article that stated that approximately 50% of Americans are on some form of benzodiazepine or anti-anxiety medication! That is simply astounding, and quite honestly, concerning.

    Who is being helped? The over-drugged population or the pockets of the drug manufacturers?
  6. gtrvox

    gtrvox our pooch Hugo

    Yep, that's me! Trudging through the snow from one doctor to the next, begging for prescriptions of Valium, Vicodin and many other meds. I'm also addicted to sex, so now, at the age of 54 have to trek from doc to doc, demanding ever larger scripts for Viagra! I tell you, thank God for chemistry!!

  7. gtrvox

    gtrvox our pooch Hugo

    Well, I can still pee without the aid of drugs but don't suppose that will last very long....

  8. nassman

    nassman Guest

    Be sarcastic all you want. My example may not apply to you but the facts speak. 50% of Americans. Case closed.

    And if you think that the commercials "conveniently" placed during the national news between 6:30 pm and 7:00 pm each night on the major US channels such as NBC, ABC, CBS, and FOX are simply put there by coincidence, you are BADLY misled and mistaken. The drug companies pay HUGE bucks to have their drugs pushed during prime time. They know that millions of people with certain nagging daily symptoms will rush to their doctors and tell them about what they saw on tv and that they want to try it. You can bet your shiny loonie on that.
  9. joy

    joy New Member

    Ditto Twinkle. I'm with you.
  10. LisaB

    LisaB New Member

    From Ocean Breeze:
    I agree, and if they don't get their drug from one doctor they go to the next. That's why we are having a crisis with medication complications because patients aren't honest with their doctors what they really are on.
    BUT: Also from Ocean Breeze:
    Lisa; my ENT'swon't even prescribe valium. I had to ask my Family practice doctor for it because of a sinus infection...
    I agree the two camps won't meet. I'm just glad I've gotten so much relief from valium and others have too. Lisa
  11. ToniG

    ToniG Guest

    LisaB; I took the valium 1x and it took 36 hours for me to feel normal. I'm on my 3rd round of antibiotics for the sinus infection, MINUS the valium.
  12. lillyrose

    lillyrose Life is short live it not diet.

    Glad I come here...I learn so much.

    I use Valium among other things when needed as my doctor has prescribed and, will until someone can come up with something better that works or a cure.

    Got any Ideas ?

    Also Oceanbreeze what milligrams of Valium did you take? You took it for a sinus infection?

    Also you might want to read up on taking antibiotics especially so many...that is how all my problems began.
  13. ToniG

    ToniG Guest

    lillyrose...I took 5 milligrams of valium. I was so congested it was bringing on vertigo, which I normally don't get because of the meniett pump. The sinus infection isn't clearing up...I'm on allergy shots, allergy meds and nasals. Problem is we are in AZ and we don't have A/C but an evaporator cooler which doesn't give my allergies any relief. :(
  14. groovemastergreg

    groovemastergreg New Member

    People who don't have air conditioners shouldn't take valium, it is very dangerous. ;D

    I might like to have sam build me an amp, but I'll take my medical advice from my doc.

    Note that the following does not constitute legal advice, but is merely a recitation of the criminal law in Texas

    And in Texas, Sam, Valium, or diazepam, is a "controlled substance", Schedule 3 and is so low on the totem pole of controlled substances it is almost like pot (not quite but almost that low) in terms of classification and punishment. In fact, in Texas, if you were to illegally possess less than 28 grams of the valium (that is alot of valium), it is a class A misdemeanor.

    Under Texas law, valium is not a narcotic. It is a controlled substance.

    Texas defines "narcotic drug" as follows in Section 481.002 of the Texas Controlled Substances Act:(29) "Narcotic drug" means any of the following,
    produced directly or indirectly by extraction from substances of
    vegetable origin, independently by means of chemical synthesis, or
    by a combination of extraction and chemical synthesis:
    (A) opium and opiates, and a salt, compound,
    derivative, or preparation of opium or opiates;
    (B) a salt, compound, isomer, derivative, or
    preparation of a salt, compound, isomer, or derivative that is
    chemically equivalent or identical to a substance listed in
    Paragraph (A) other than the isoquinoline alkaloids of opium;
    (C) opium poppy and poppy straw; or
    (D) cocaine, including:
    (i) its salts, its optical, position, or
    geometric isomers, and the salts of those isomers;
    (ii) coca leaves and a salt, compound,
    derivative, or preparation of coca leaves; and
    (iii) a salt, compound, derivative, or
    preparation of a salt, compound, or derivative that is chemically
    equivalent or identical to a substance described by Subparagraph
    (i) or (ii), other than decocainized coca leaves or extractions of
    coca leaves that do not contain cocaine or ecgonine.
  15. gardenfish

    gardenfish New Member

    wow, lovely weather here today.

  16. lillyrose

    lillyrose Life is short live it not diet.

    enough said....done with this one.

    Take care and many blessings.


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