Update:Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough, elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

Hank, are you serious? Do you believe that a chiropractor actually caused your MM symptoms in the first place?? It is interesting that you did not feel the effects until a year later.
I am familiar with a case of very young and active young woman, in fact an aerobics instructor, who had a cervical manipulation by a chiropractor and very shortly thereafter suffered a stroke.
Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction, and sometimes, it is hard to tell the difference between the two.
Buyer beware.

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

I don't know if his treatment did or not. But I do know that the treatment did nor work as he portrayed that it should. The Pro Adjuster works off of sound waves. And then based upon the shape of the wave form on the set of vertebrae, that tells the chiropractor which vertebra to attack with these tuning fork styled impactors. Those impactors used in or around C-1, I really question. As I said, I didn't have Meniere's symptoms before the treatments. If upper cervical misalignments can cause these symptoms to develop, if this treatment does what it is supposed to do, then it should have precluded the symptoms from developing. So I believe the treatment is a crock. And it did not even help with lower back pain. Coincidentally, the guy sold his practice and skipped town. He never wanted to repeat xrays either.

Regarding stroke, I believe it is the lack of proper upper cervical care that creates the conditions conducive to causing a stroke. A misalignment can cause a kink to develop in an inter-vertebral artery collecting plaque. When the misalignment is corrected, that plaque can be released to flow into the brain. So it is not the adjustment that cause the stroke, rather the lack of proper misalignment correction for an extended period of time.

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

wow can't believe how a great post about the benefits of NUCCA have caused such contempt from some posters. I am here to tell you that I am a patient of Dr. Smith who was recommended by Dr Burcon and who is in close contact with him and follows his procedures. I have been on this forum for over 15 years and have tried many things recommended. Some worked and some did not. This seems to be giving me some relief and I am a 20 year sufferer of this beastly disease with much damage. I have also spoken to many patients that are in his office and they expressed how wonderful these treatments have been for them and how they no longer have vertigo. WHY ARE THERE SO MANY DIS BELIEVERS HERE. I am sure it will not help everyone, just as the anti-virals, johns regime, vitamin C do not help everyone. It makes me sick to read about all these meniere's patients who have had radical surgery before trying something as harmless as NUCCA. Lighten up. Everything does not have to turn into a huge ugly debate. Carole

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

Great post Carole, thanks.

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

How much does NUCCA cost?

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

Back from my NUCCA appt...alittle disappointed since he wanted to adjust me without taking further xrays. I said 'NO' and suggested he take them. Its been a long time since I had them done.
He checked my alignment and of course I knew I was off. He did a full set of xrays and said that maybe he has to adjust me a differnt way now. But wont know until he looks at the xrays.
Appt..again tomorrow to go over them.
Xrays cost me 110.00. Which I do not care about to say the least..if it really shows that he needs to make adjustments on his measurments.
I am a doctor..so how the hell would I know if his adjustments caused the pain. I just know that when he was done and I went home.. the pain hit me that night. And lasted until the next adjustment. Never any relief the last 3 times I have been there.
So, with that said, I will post tomorrow. And I STILL..think it has helped me a great deal .

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

I would imagine that the cost varies according to who you are seeing. As for me, I have been fortunate to get medicare to pay for it and I have a gap policy. I pay nothing. I believe that Dr. Smith charges $45.00 for an adjustment. I take my grandson to him every other time I go and he is nice enough to just charge me $25.00 for his adjustment. My 9 year old grandson was way out of alignment and has headaches and tinnitus. He is here with me now and I asked him if he is feeling better and he says yes, for sure. If it were me, I would get a hold of Dr. Burcon and have him recommend someone in your area. That is how I was able to see Dr.Smith. He is 15 minute away from where I live. Carole

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

Had another visit today to go over my Xrays done yesterday . The doctor did have to adjust the measurements he was doing because of what he saw on the xrays. I am now considered the "wellness" stage. Which basically means I am almost back to normal now. 9 months into it. Not too far off now from the Atlas!! My head was basically tilted so far off to the left...it was inches away from my shoulder. He did have numbers of how far off I was..and where I am at now..but I didnt write them down. He showed me before and after shots. AMAZING!
I did get adjusted today with new measurements . So far, so good .

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

That makes perfect sense. I expect you are back on the wellness curve. Wonderful.

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

Good for you!

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

I have been through this any number of times. I do not know, however, why the NUCCA did not recognize the need for new x-rays as you and I did. Perhaps he learned something new as well. Well, it does not matter now. What matters is that you continue to improve.

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

I have sent the paper tor my doc in sweden and here is his result.

May I bother you with an issue again.
Do you have any experience of chiropractic as a treatment for Meniere's? Have attached PDF proof or is it fake.
Fredrik

Hey Fred!
I know honestly nothing about this but have difficulty understanding the intended mechanism.
I've done a search of the world's largest database of scientific peer-reviewed medical articles and the author of the article you sent me appears not once, not even as a co-author of other articles. Then I'll be skeptical.
Yours sincerely

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

Skeptical? Seriously?

I went to my THIRD ENT recently and had the chance to explain my entire medical history. I told him I had had 2 car accidents. He agreed, quite quickly, that cervical vertigo is real. He also accepted the NUCCA theories as an explanation for my complete recovery from vertigo in only a few months. I remain vertigo free as a result since April 2007.

It doesn't matter to me that the paper isn't "peer reviewed". i sought out (thanks to Hank's help) a NUCCA practitioner in Ottawa Canada and have got my life back. I continue to be plagued with pesky tinnitus and ear fullness; however, a recent trip to a specialist office with a CT scan shows I have a benign tumour in my right sinus. It's completely blocked. My medical team agrees that it's removal could reduce if not eliminate a variety of symptoms and reduce my sinus infections and cold.

Its a combination of accepted medical practices and alternative medicines (I also see an osteopath) that has put me back on my feet and given me my life back.

I hope the same for all of you.

Songbird.

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

May I ask what kind of ct scan (of what) revealed this? What symptoms made your dr decide to do this scan? I continue to feel from my experience that what is left of my symptoms is sinus related but I can't find any way to 'see' what goes on there.

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

Wonderful news! These kinds of stories continue to make me hopeful that I, too, will one day be able to come back to this board and write, "I've got my life back!"

First appointment with a NUCCA chiro tomorrow. I've got my fingers crossed!

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

IF you have symptoms being caused by a growth in the sinuses (cyst, tumor, etc), it should be visible either by direct visualization with a nasopharyngoscope, or a CT of the sinuses and orbits.

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

WOW…so much disagreement. I find this so surprising considering that everyone on here seems to concur that there is no definitive one cure for all. An open mind is a beautiful thing.

In any event, I have been on JOH for about three months and have had NUCCA treatments for about two months. No idea which one is helping and really don’t care as long as it continues. I am curious though, for those who have had good success and consider themselves cured, what the time frame was from start to normal life. I have had success but do not consider myself cured. I have not had a Vertigo attack since I started NUCCA but still have tinnitus and ear fullness, as well as all day moderate dizziness a couple of days a week.

Any opinions are welcome.

Jerry

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

Hey Jerry,

Speaking from both personal experience (I tried an entire course of NUCCA), and based on the reports I have seen on this board, it appears that if/to the extent that NUCCA has been effective, it has mainly been effective for vertigo. Outside of Hank, nobody else on the board who tried NUCCA has reported any effect on their hearing. In my own case, I didn't have vertigo so I only tried it for the fullness and fluctuations. It had no effect.

To the extent that folks have reported relief from vertigo, I think the common theme has been that everyone who feels they benefitted from NUCCA noted at least "something" within the first 2-3 visits. And by "something," I mean at least a very temporary relief (or even slight exacerbation) of symptoms. If you had not felt anything at all within 2-3 visits, the likelihood is that it wasn't going to work. But since you feel it has provided at least some level of comfort, then there's no sense in discontinuing something you think is working for you.

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

Regarding the restoration of my hearing, my hearing loss was related to the Meniere's cycle. Each time, after 12-14 hours over vertigo, my hearing would be as good as ever, practically anyway. But just prior to the vertigo episode, along with the aural fullness that woud build, my hearing loss would also build. My hearing would be the worst it would ever be right before I would go upside down.

Right now, my hearing in my Meniere's ear is not quite the hearing in my other ear, and I have a slight ssssssssssssss tinnitus. I say 'slight' but it can vary. But it is a different variety of tinnitius than that which would build before a vertigo episode. I expect that had I not succesfully treated the symptoms, over time my hearing loss would have continued to progress. I believe it is damage to tissues that causes much hearing loss. So I am fortunate to have discovered what was causing the symptoms, and successfully treated them, before any permenant damage would have precluded my hearing from returning.

 

Re: Meniere’s Disease Breakthrough? elimination of vertigo in 291 out of 300 patient

I cracked my own neck and felt so much better this morning. Wow, this really does work. Imagine how good I'd feel if a professional did it.