This is completely untrue and you know it. You have held forth many times on this board and on this thread that "certified" NUCCA practitioners shpuld be sought for treatment because of their specialized training. What I seized upon was when you were lumping Taximom in with your collection of anecdotal evidence as "proof" of the success of NUCCA, since by her won admission she did not see a NUCCA practitioner. Her initial recitation of events -- which was given to the board on an unsolicited basis -- seemed to be completely at odds with NUCCA therapy, and so I made the point that her anecdote was neither here nor there when it came to vouching for NUCCA. At that point 2 things occurred: 1) Taximom filled in additional details that she hadn't shared before; and 2) you retracted your prior stance that folks should see a certified NUCCA practitioner (a very, very specific specialty) and started claiming that anyone "familiar" with upper cervical therapy was good enough. So in order to dig deeper into whether her anecdtoe had any relevance to your point, i asked additional relevant questions. If this were a cross-examination to "impeach" a witness it would be a very poor effort, as any lawyer will tell you that if you are trying to "prove" your case you never ask a witness a question that you don't already know the answer to. What you're doing with MrMan is the exact same thing. You're asking for details because you're trying to reconcile how his problems might be related to yours. Your problem is that you keep trying to paint this as a discussion where anyone who agrees with you necessarily wants to help others and anyone who doesn't agree with you doesn't care about others. This is completely false. What you've done is no different than waht I have done.