Does this ease your Tinnitus/Fullness/Brain Fog/Constant Tiredness?

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  1. Nope, didn't help a bit.

    9 vote(s)
    52.9%
  2. OMG - It DID help ease my symptoms.

    4 vote(s)
    23.5%
  3. It helped ease my symptoms a lot!

    4 vote(s)
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  1. Papajoe

    Papajoe Myco-dental Freak of Nature

    Standard disclaimer: I am not a doctor. I knew one once, he was a nice guy, but I'm not one.

    Hi Bob,
    When you say attack, do you mean a vertigo attack?

    I'm don't think that the bicarb/ASG will do anything to stop a vertigo attack. If your attacks are vertigo/w associated nausea, then you might consider the anti-viral route. Check out the JOH regimen.

    But if your attacks are brain-fog, exhaustion, quality time with your toilet (on either end), and/or non-vertigo dizziness or unsteadiness, then the bicarb/ASG might make a difference. If it does, it may be a sign of food intolerance.

    My personal theory is that for many MM/MAV sufferers, it's a virus (usually dormant) that causes the tinnitus/vertigo, and a compromised immune system (for whatever reason) can allow the virus to reactivate and go nuts.

    Allergies and food intolerance are a major load on the immune system. But if you don't have allergies, then other things can cause the virus to reactivate, and so anti-virals may offer your best bet. I haven't studied the components of JOH, but I believe it helps some people by strengthening the immune system.

    Good Luck,
    Papa Joe

    Standard disclaimer: I am not a doctor. I knew one once, he was a nice guy, but I'm not one.
     
  2. Papajoe

    Papajoe Myco-dental Freak of Nature

    Hi Dawn,
    The only thing I ask is that if you have other health issues, that you ask your doctor to help you with the diet. Also make sure that the antibody test your doctor offered includes the IgA and IgG antibodies. I posted copies of mine, you're welcome to download those to show your doctor.

    When you next see your oto about anti-virals, you can use these docs I list at the bottom of this post:
    http://www.menieres.org/forum/index.php/topic,22821.msg403200.html#msg403200

    You might also search the forum for messages from Caribbean about recommended dosages.

    Good luck!
    Papa Joe
     
  3. Papajoe

    Papajoe Myco-dental Freak of Nature

    Speaking of the devil, here is a convenient anti-viral thread:
    http://www.menieres.org/forum/index.php/topic,24055.0.html
     
  4. utalledo

    utalledo Paradise

    papajoe,

    do you also have hearing loss, vertigo and all the "MM" symptoms with your food intolerance?

    I will try this and let you know, all though I'm usually always dizzy...
     
  5. Papajoe

    Papajoe Myco-dental Freak of Nature

    Yes, my food intolerance triggers those big time. That's why I'm here rather than on a food allergy forum. Well, first, the people here are super nice, but I was originally diagnosed as "atypical" MM.

    Personally, I think the vertigo/fullness/hearing loss is the MM part, and the brain fog and exhaustion and general imbalance (non-vertigo dizziness) many people here have are caused by something else. In my case, food intolerance. In other cases it's migraine, but I think migraine is often a result of some sort of food intolerance as well. You'll hear the folks with MAV talk about their trigger foods.

    When I get dinged by a food, the hearing loss/tinnitus gets much worse (fortunately, I rarely have the vertigo), and when I avoid them it gets much better. I hadn't gone away completely yet, but I've only been on my elimination diet for two weeks.

    I'm also taking bioflavanoids (recommended by my oto to aid in ear fluid drainage), one month of L-Lysine (to boost my immune system) and probiotics (to help deal with my food intolerance). When I go back to see my oto in three weeks, he'll give me some anti-viral meds if I still have any tinnitus).

    If you don't have the brain fog or other "atypical" symptoms, the bicarb/Alka-Seltzer Gold probably won't help, but it won't hurt for you to try.

    If all you have are the classic symptoms, you may see some relief with the JOH regimen, and/or anti-viral medications.

    Good Luck,
    Papa Joe
     
  6. dolfan

    dolfan Active Member

    This mystery goes way back for me. My brother swears it's allergies(mold,pollen,grass) the specialist say classic menierse, all I know is the symptoms have been less since JOH regimen. I don't take everything, but the one I know for sure that is doing something is L-Lisine. I have suffered my entire life with canker sores. Since I have started taking lisine, I don't get them. I only take 2000mg a day, because that mid-day dose is hard for me to remember. Diet....it will never happen unless I'm homebound..god forbid, but I know it's a possibility.
     
  7. Papajoe

    Papajoe Myco-dental Freak of Nature

    Just remember "Classic Meniere's" means "we don't have an f'ing clue what is wrong with you".

    If your brother has allergies, you probably do to. And, if you do the diet right, within a year you may be able to go back to eating most of your old foods.

    I'll admit I was an extreme case of food intolerance, but if you were like me, unable to work and ready to file for disability, you'll find the will power. Unfortunately, if you've got them food allergies tend to get worse over time. But I agree that changing your diet can be extremely difficult. I sure wouldn't have if I had had a choice.
     
  8. movingroom

    movingroom New Member

    No, this didn´t help. I am very stress sensitive with my MD, so it may just be me. The salt in the bicarb certainly does not help me, I know this from my personal experience. I alwaysyhave a banana before noon, which is one of the foods that help my Meniere´s but after the bicarb I didn´t feel my usual self.
     
  9. Papajoe

    Papajoe Myco-dental Freak of Nature

    I know it won't work for everyone, only those with food allergy triggers. Thanks for giving it a shot, and thanks for the link!
     
  10. Blair1955

    Blair1955 New Member

    Papajoe :)

    I tried this twice once about an hour after lunch on Sunday then again this morning without any food in my stomach and neither time helped. I wish I had better news but thanks anyway at this point I’m willing to try anything….Blair
     
  11. Papajoe

    Papajoe Myco-dental Freak of Nature

    Thanks Blair. It's not really bad news for me, because I knew it wouldn't help everyone. But I wish it had made a difference, because if you know you have a food sensitivity, you can deal with that. But at least you can cross food intolerance off your list of things that might be causing your symptoms. Good Luck!
     
  12. utalledo

    utalledo Paradise

    I still haven't tried it but I will and I will post ;)
     
  13. Papajoe

    Papajoe Myco-dental Freak of Nature

    Thanks, I hope it helps. Let us know.
     
  14. Papajoe

    Papajoe Myco-dental Freak of Nature

    BTW - even if everybody else who tries this says it doesn't help them, four people besides myself have already identified food sensitivity as possible trigger, and so I consider the thread a success. If it helps anyone else, that's a bonus.
     
  15. Papajoe

    Papajoe Myco-dental Freak of Nature

    But, dammit, I just discovered that pork is a trigger. It's true - if you're sensitive to foods, it's the ones you like the best that get you.
     
  16. Tara

    Tara New Member

    Pork used to cause me issues, but not anymore.
     
  17. Papajoe

    Papajoe Myco-dental Freak of Nature

    If I'm really really good at avoiding it for 6 months or so, I may be able to re-introduce it. That's one of my motivators.
     
  18. carolyn33

    carolyn33 New Member

    Ok, tried it more than once. first time it helped a little, after that nada.. Sure hope it helps some of you out there. Thanks Papajoe for trying.
     
  19. DizzyinColorado

    DizzyinColorado Formerly known as DizzyInColorado

    Tried the baking soda (1 tsp) in 4 oz water at 2:30 because my hearing was starting to go, my tinnitus was the throbbing kind and I have tingling in my face and a big headache. Its now 4:18 and the tinnitus is much better, well, it isn't throbbing anymore and my hearing is definitely better. The headache is still here but I am going to take ibuprofen now. I do have to say that it helped me. I have been on the gluten free only since Tuesday. I haven't eliminated eggs, dairy or anything else. I am pretty sure that there are some other foods that I am eating that are causing me problems, too. I will get in to have the blood test soon. Thanks again Papajoe and I wanted to report on my results. Dawn

    BTW, did any of you have terrible belching with this? At first, I could hardly keep it down because of it. Sorry to be gross but I just wanted to see.
     
  20. Papajoe

    Papajoe Myco-dental Freak of Nature

    baking soda is an antacid, so it'll make you burp.

    And since it helped your symptoms, there is a good chance you have food intolerance, so please read So Cal Cyclist's post:http://www.menieres.org/forum/index.php/topic,23869.msg422187.html#msg422187

    It may be worth a try for you. (did you register your vote?)

    Thanks for giving it a shot!
    Papa Joe

    PS - you probably don't need the blood test. They're not very accurate, unless you just want it for your peace of mind. My showed a lot of foods that have turned out to be triggers, but it said pork was fine, and pork turned out to be one of my big triggers.
     

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